techPresident - Jeff Jarvis - Comments

BOOTS ON THE GROUND

RPmaniac — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:40:09 -0400

Meetup.com members as of 9/16/2007
updated from 9/10/07

Republicans

Paul.............. 45,145.....+2579
Hunter................230.......+38
Thompson..........179........+9
McCain..............107........+0
Giuliani................56........+1
Huckabee............34.........+3
Romney..............29...........-1
Tancredo..............4..........+0
Brownback............0.........+0

Democrats

Obama..........5893.........+84
Edwards........4139.........+16
Kucinich........4097.........+58
Clinton.......... 2042........+20
Gravel...............52.........+8
Richardson........31..........-2
Biden..................0........+0
Dodd...................0........+0

Thanks, Micah!

Ruby Sinreich — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:37:45 -0400

Thanks so much for these notes Micah. There were so many times during this discussion when I just wanted to bop those journalists on the head. They are probably way ahead of their peers, but they are really far from getting it.

They really seem unable to break out the mindset that their audience are a much of dumb sheep with no intellectual curiosity and who have to be told what they want to read. I nearly cried out when Plotz described the media's breathless coverage of Obama coverage as "earned media" instead of the predetermined and self-fulfilling script that the MSM is mindlessly following.

Anyway it was a fascinating discussion to observe. Perhaps next year they can include some of the politicians who they so frequently blamed for spin and message control. We can get a nice "chicken or the egg" session going.

Great post.

David All — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:24:25 -0400

Lots of words. Lots of content.

Thanks for posting this.
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YouTube is TV to US campaigns

Jonathan Trenn — Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:06:49 -0500

Micah

Not sure what you mean by 'external reason', but it's my guess that the campaign managers at this point see YouTube and online video strictly as scripted video opportunities. I don't mind the Hillary type intro or the McCain pieces...let them do that...but getting the campaigns to have a Cameron type moment will be like pulling teeth. I agree with Jeff that most of them will be scripted or mostly so.

I doubt the internet strategists have that proverbial seat at the table as of yet. They're still in the next room, carrying out low-level and mid-level tasks.

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Waiting for a reverse "macaca" moment

Micah L. Sifry — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:11:55 -0500

Jeff--

I would love a stream of videos from those living rooms and coffee klatches (assuming they are still happening; some of the stories out of IA and NH suggest that there's such demand to meet the top candidates that they can't schedule such intimate events). It used to be that only the lucky voters of those two states got a chance to meet the candidates face-to-face in a personal enough setting to take their measure and perhaps ask them a tough question and get a real answer. But someone with a video could now capture that moment and instead of giving us another "macaca" we might get a revelation about a candidate's character or vision that is positive and affirming. Recall the photo of Bush hugging that girl whose father died on 9/11. It was taken spontaneously by an onlooker and showed up real emotion; arguably it was Bush at his best. I just wish the current candidates would allow themselves the possibility of a similar moment...

Micah

Agreement

Jeff Jarvis — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 06:55:42 -0500

That what I was trying to say in my No. 2 point above: More is better. And I agree that we are pikers in the U.S. versus others; see my post on the French and Nicolas Sarkozy with the voice not just of the candidate but of the people. I do think even these "casual" moments on candidates' sites will be stage-managed, though. That's why the videos from livingrooms in Iowa and New Hampshire taken by the voters there are also vital to this new and richer picture we can get of candidates via video.

Link busted

Rob Hyndman — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:33:05 -0500

Great post, Micah. FYI, the webcameron link is busted, though.

Solid.

David All — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:45:39 -0500

Jarvis is great. And his analysis is spot-on.

I only wish that he would actually use YouTube as his distribution for videos more often.

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